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{23} UNITED KINGDOM UFO MAILING LIST

Date: 31st October 1995 - Members = 167

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Space Shuttle see's UFO.
Alien photographs in Chinese magazine.
Inside the Military UFO Underground, by A.J.S. Rayl.
UFO sighting over Swansea, South Wales.
"From: raver909@telerama.lm.com (Joe LeSesne)
Newsgroup - rec.radio.amateur.space and others!
Date: 21 Oct 1995 06:08:44

At 2:06 AM Eastern Time these exact words were heard by a female
astronaut: "We have an Unidentified Flying Object."

How do I know this? I heard it whilst watching NASA TV. Before you
laugh at this, check the tapes of NASA TV or better yet check with
an amateur radio operator who taped the feed.

For 10-15 minutes nothing else was said. When something WAS said it wasn't about the UFO. Don't sleep on this It could be a BIG story.
Either:

a) Our astronauts are hallucinating or mis- identifying meteors,
spacejunk, satellites, etc.

b) Our astronauts had a unique encounter and there are
extraterrestrial intelligently piloted vehicles in space.

c) Some other earth power is spying on our shuttle with their
devices.

or

d) NASA has known this for some time and is covering up the the
fact. The woman didn't sound very upset or shaken, she said rather
matter of factly, "We have an Unidentified Flying Object."
"Date sent: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 09:11:35 GMT
From: Doug Roberts
To: ufo@holodeck.demon.co.uk
Subject: Re: {18} UK-UFO-ML

In your message dated Wednesday 4, October 1995 you wrote :

> Last week, a Hong Kong man sent me two photographs that appeared in a
> Chinese magazine. The magazine claimed the photographs showed an alien being
> that had crashlanded and had died.

These pics have been around for a couple of months now. They were orginally published in a Hong Kong tabloid/magazine. There was a lot of comments on the internet that they looked "more" authentic than the Santilli alien.

THEN.. CNN screened a news item saying that these pics were of an alien model in a UFO museam. (Possibly the alien model from the showtime movie that was donated to the Roswell museam). The model was constructed based on witmess testimony. That is why is looks at lot closer to the testimony.

Sorry if you find thin infomation just a bit dissapointing!

Seeya!

Doug.
">From Omni Magazine (April 1994)

Inside the Military UFO Underground, by A.J.S. Rayl.

NATO Meets E.T.
Name: Robert O. Dean, retired Army command sergeant major

Claim: Back in the Sixties, NATO issued a classified report stating that UFOs were real, of extraterrestrial origin, and had visited the earth. This extraordinary report was said to come out of NATO's
command center the Supreme Headquarters Allied Powers, Europe
(SHAPE), located then just outside of Paris, France.

Background: Dean, a highly decorated veteran, served on the front
lines in both Korea and Viet Nam. In 1963, while assigned to the
Supreme Headquarters Operataions Center (SHOC), SHAPE's war room,
headed up by then supreme allied commander of Europe, General Lyman Lemnitzer, Dean claims he was able to read the detailed 12 inch thick NATO reports on UFOs.

The Story: "SHAPE was one of those choice assignments,. You had to
have a spotless record and pass security background checks. I
applied on a whim and got it. I was very proud and pleased. At
SHAPE, I was put through more security checks, givern a COSMIC TOP
SECRET (yes this is a real term) clearance, the highest NATO has,
and assigned to the SHOC (the NATO war room). In those days, the
activity would run hot and cold and much of it would depend on how
the Soviets wanted to play it. The most intriguing thing to me was
that we were contually having a problem with large, metallic,
circular objects that would appear over central Europe; these were
reported as visual phenomena by our pilots and appeared on radar as well. Some flew in formation, and most of the time we spotted them
coming out of the Soviet Union, over East Germany, West Germany,
France, and then they would often circle somewhere over the English Channel and head north, disappearing from NATO radar over the
Norwegian Sea. These objects were very large, moving very fast, at
very high altitudes--higher than we could reach at the time--and they seemed obviously under intelligent control. I was told this had been going on for some time and that in February 1961 there had been quite a scare. Fifty of these objects were spotted on radar and headed in formation from the Soviet Union toward Europe, flying at about
100,000 feet. The Soviets had closed all borders. Everybody went to red alert. All hell broke loose. We really thought the War had
started. We scrambled. We knew the Russians were scrambling. It
was the largest number of these objects that had been seen.
Fortunately--and only by the grace of God--we didn't start bombing
and neither did the Russians. In nine minutes they were gone. I was told that then Deputy Supreme Allied Commander of Europe, Sir Thomas Pike, had been repeatedly requesting information from London and
Washington about these objects, but nothing would ever come. We
found out later that the Columbine-Topaz spy ring in Paris was
intercepting everything and forwarding it to the KGB, which often got intelligence information even before we did. So Pike decided, I was told, to develop an in house study to determine whether these objects were a military threat. In the meantime, the UFO matter literally
brought about the establishment of direct communication between the East and West in 1962, which I have always found interesting and
ironic. We had pretty well determined by that time that these were
not Russian craft, and the Russians had determined they were not
ours. So, we came to an understanding, and a direct telephone line
was opened between SHOC and the Warsaw Pact Headquarters Command. Of course, a setup was always a possibility, so we had backup ways of
checking out whether the Russians were being truthful. But since we were both armed to the teeth and WWIII was just ticking away, it was a logical step in the right direction. That idea developed into the hotline between the president of the US and the soviet premier,
following the Cuban Missile Crisis. Well, by the time I arrived in
1963, everybody had been talking about the study and I had heard the rumours, seen the blips on radar, witnessed the commotions and some of us occasionally even talked about the possibilities. But nothing really prepared me for what I started to read in the early morning
hours one night in January 1964. It was about 2:00 a.m. and a
relatively quiet night when the SHOC controller on duty went into
the vault and came out with this huge document. 'Take a look at
this,' he said. The title was simply: ASSESSMENT: AN EVALUATION OF A POSSIBLE MILITARY THREAT TO ALLIED FORCES IN EUROPE. It was
numbered, #3, stamped COSMIC TOP SECRET, had eight inches worth of
appendices, dozens of photographs and had been signed into the vault by German colonel Heinz Berger, SHOC's head of security: I quickly
learned that it was based on two and a half years of research, was
funded by NATO money, and that only 15 copies were published -- in
English, German, and French. Each one was numbered. All were
classified and ordered to be kept under lock and key. Every time I
got the chance, from then until I left, I would read a section or
two in it. It was the most intriguing document I'd ever read. It was put together by military representatives of every NATO nation and
also included contributions from some of the greatest scientific
minds. These objects were violating all of our known laws of
physics and the study team had gone to Cambridge, Oxford, the
Sorbonne, MIT and other major universities for input on chemistry,
physics, atmospheric physics, biology, history, psychology, and even theology, all of which were separate appendices. I read about
theories on Einstein's sought after unified field theory, the high
radiation at various landing sites and UFO reports that dated back
to the the Roman era and up to our own F105 pilots' sightings and
encounters, and on and on. I had always been a skeptic, but this
report, well...it concluded that this stuff was not science fiction.

I read about contact encounnters. One incident that had just
happened in 1963 involved a landing on a Danish farm. According to
the report, the farmer went abooard with the two little beings and
two more human looking men who spoke to him in Danish. The report
included parts of his interrogation by government authorities and
their conclusions that he was telling the truth. In another incident, according to the reports, a craft landed on an Italian airfield and offered to take an Italian sergeant for a ride. He wet his
pants--that's what it said--and was so scared, he didn't go. The
appendix that really got to me was titled 'Autopsies.' I saw
pictures of a 30 meter disc that had crashed in Timmensdorfer,
Germany, near the Baltic Sea in 1961. The British Army, according
to the report, got there first and put up a perimeter. The craft had landed in very soft, foamy soil near the Russian border and so hadn't destructed, but one third of it was buried. We and the Russians
who also quickly showed up had both tracked it. Inside there were 12 small bodies. All dead. There were pictures of the bodies, which
looked like the beings known as the 'grays,' being laid out and then put on stretchers and loaded into jeeps, and autopsy photos, too.
Some of the little grays appeared not to be a reproductive capable
species. The autopsy guys concluded, according to the report, that it looked as if they had been cut out of a cookie cutter -- clones with no alimentary tract. They did not ingest or process food as we know it, nor did it appear that they had any system for elimination. The craft itself was cut up like a pie into six pieces, put on lowboys
and hauled off. Scuttlebutt was that it was given to the Americans
and flown to Wright Patterson Air Force base in Ohio. I looked at
these picture and couldn't believe it. My skin got cold and I
thought, My God. I had never really believed we were all alone in the universe, but this was hard to swallow. The major conclusions in the NATO report blew me away. There were five: 1) The planet and human
race had been the subject of a detailed survey of some kind by
several different extraterrestrial civilizations, four of which
they had identified visually. One race looked almost
indistinguishable from us. Another resembled humans in height,
stature, and structure, but with a very gray, pasty skin tone. The
third race is now popularly known as the grays and the fourth was
described as reptilian, with vertical pupils and lizardlike skin. 2)
These alien visitations had been going on for a very long time, at
least 200 years--perhaps longer. 3) The extraterrestrials did not
appear hostile since if that were their intent they would have already demonstrated their malevolence. 4) UFO appearances and quick
disappearances as well as the flybys were demonstrations conducted on purpose to show us some of their capabilities. 5) a process or
program of some sort seemed to be underway since flybys progressed to landings and eventually contact. I wanted so badly to copy this
thing. I did take a photograph of the cover sheet, which wasn't in
itself classified. But I didn't want to wind up in Fort
Leavenworth. So instead I would go to the bathroom and take
notes--surreptitiously, very carefully. I have been through an awful lot in my life, but I've never been able to just walk away from that report. I know that I'm taking a chance by violating my oaths. But
this is the most important issue of our times--so damn important
that I can't think of anything more important, and the public has
been deceived and completely kept in the dark about all of this for all these years. It's the biggest scientific political scandal ever.
Besides, what have I got to lose? I' m 64 years old now. Are they
going to bump me off? I have told the truth and my integrity and
credibility stand. When is our government going to tell the truth?"
">From the South Wales Evening Post newspaper.
Dated: Friday 15th Sept 1995

UFO SIGHTING OVER CITY

People living in a Swansea suburb are convinced they have had
visitors from outer space. The visitation from a "pulsating, giant
transparent jellyfish" happened in the skies above Swansea Road,
Waunarlwydd, around 10pm on Wednesday (13/9/95). Dogs got agitated as the mystery object hovered above the road and paused over Waunarlwydd Rugby Club, say residents. Ruth Petherbridge, of Swansea Road, and
her neighbours Jonathan and Tracy Shepherd were walking their dogs
Prince and Fudge when they saw the mysterious white lights hovering above the rugby field.

Ruth said: "It was a huge black object as big as the rugby pitch -
with flashing lights around it and a circle of light in the middle.
It is impossible to explain properly what we saw, but it must have
been an unidentified flying object."

Tracy Shepherd added: "Prince and Fudge both got so excited about
the lights we had to put them on their leads. I was in a state of
shock. "We went to get our neighbour Julie Wagstaff to show her what we had seen and it seemed as if the lights were following us."

Julie said: "The best way I can describe it is that it was like a
giant transparent jelly fish pulsating in the air."

A spokesman for Swansea Coastguard said no mystery objects had been reported to them on Wednesday night and suggested a laser show at
Cross Hands could been responsible.

Just for the record Swansea is a port on the South Wales coast and
Cross Hands is about 16 miles NW from Swansea. (I, however, am 10
miles SE and missed the whole show. Bugger.)
"Dave.

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